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According to DiscoverTheNetwork's report on Border Action Network, they get a lot of money from Ben and Jerry's. Excerpt: BAN blames American capitalism and free markets for the economic woes that prompt many Mexicans to seek illegal entry into the United States. "Immigrants are today's refugees of globalization policies like NAFTA that displace and destroy communities," says BAN.

An acre for a rifle, Ken? Or just to enjoy?

...love the headline. He isn't giving up anything, its either deal or gets your head bashed in January when the power shifts...

You sound like a MAS student. We do not understand you.

Most of Grijalva's actions are ingestive/digestive, so seeing him be dismissive is, if nothing, a change of scenery.

Gabriel, you may want to wait until the Dec. 6th appearance by Mark Kelly and reconsider that remark. You will see the real Tucson on display there. Not the one here that is has so much of our lower strata.

I don't get why the pro-capitalist, pull your own weight crowd totally dominate the comment boards all day long during the week. Practice what you preach for a change?

IMPORTS are slowing for 4 months now meaning retailers have CURBED big inventory build up even before this AUSTERITY hits port activity reports demonstrate slowing IMPORTS well except for FOREIGNERS buying up our treasuries via TRANSFER OF WEALTH out of US - around $1 TRILLION PER YEAR

Then you are blind to the facts. OWS protesters do NOT want to overthrow the government. THey want a seperation of corporation and government. Tea-party wants an end to government. To over throw it, but are too comfy sitting on their couch collecting ss and medicare to be bothered after dinner time.

Any church that lets themselves be pawns for the acts of inhumanity occuring in Mexico without a single effort to make Mexico act humanely does not get my respect. National churches choosing to attack Arizona legislation instead of the total disregard for human life of the Mexican government is the act of cowards looking for easy targets while ignoring the source of the whole problem.

How many businesses do you know of will result in the creation of 2,100 jobs for our community?

The article said he wasn't talking. Send this pig to the U.S he will be made to talk.

Everything man does has risk including potential work injuries, death, and environmental impacts. Even the cave man had these risks....gee if I go outside today I might get eaten by a saber-tooth tiger or be buried by a landslide. When they did go outside, early indigenous people were impacting nature by burning the grasslands, killing off megafauna, and cutting down forests. Just magnify that many times over with modern urban development, subdivisions,railroads, highways, & industrial corridors. Your lifestyle has an associated cost to the environment. Fortunately, we've come a long way even in the last 50 years and have learned how to make our impacts as minimal as possible (at least in the U.S.).

Francis, the only thing I see the GOP jobs plan creating is more money in the pockets of the business executives who support the GOP. To think that tax cuts and de-regulation, both of which would enable businesses to take money-saving shortcuts, would stimulate business owners & executives to create more jobs, is not being realistic. Any money saved would simply go to line the already-bloated wallets of the already-fat cats. That has been the history of the business world for so long that I do not see it changing any time soon. Them that has, will have more, and the rest of us will have less. That includes Republican have-nots, too, you know. GOP politicians (and their business world bosses) are not interested in furthering those people's economic positions, either. The sooner Republican have-nots wake up & realize this, the better off this country will be.

LOL ... That's not helping Cain, since he's insisting - despite all evidence to the contrary - that his scheme IS NOT a VAT.

Fortunately there are still sane people around who have raised their kids outside the liberal schools and they will be a voice of sanity in our future.

The bailouts worked. I understood the desperate need for bailing out the big guys and it did have global ramifications. Most of the rest of the world understands what much of the US does not seem to grasp - that Obama saved the global banking system. If he had not done that, we would be deep in a world-wide depression with at least twice the unemployment we have now. As it is, we have most of that money repaid at 8 1/2% return. I was against the car bailout but now see it was a wise move. Save a lot of manufacturing jobs which, in turn lead to more US jobs. Lorry the rw's don't like it but Obama did save us from the mess left by Cheney and his lackey. Now if we could just get the repubs off their Fat Cat behinds. They have stalled the small business bill, the jobs bill, the immigration bill, the health care for 9/11 heroes and more. Now they're off on their 7 week vacation and junket. When they return, they'll be campaigning full time. No time for work then either. Watch them. If we let them, they'll let bp off the hook and a lot of Americans will suffer.

then there are those not counted anymore, I finally gave up looking for a job because I'm in the boomer generation which no one dares hire, but since I no longer even look I am one less statistic in the unemployment figures. It's a shame that on of the largest segment of unemployed in the country are those over 55. Okay...in addition to the usual blather about updating work skills, here's some purely cosmetic suggestions offered with a smile. Don't take this personally but it does help to make older men more youthful. --Shave off the white or graying mustache or beard (Yes I know you've been wearing it for the last 30 years but it's mak ing you look 10-15 years older than you are. Trust me this really works!) --Lose a few pounds (This will make you look a bit more nimble.) --Update your wardrobe with a few new slacks and shirts (Yes I know that shirt you bought in 2005 still has some good life in it, but it's time for a fresher look.) --Check out the skin products counter at the local department store. Your skin really needs some attention to moisturize your skin and diminish wrinkles (Yes, I know real men don't usually even think of their sk in without wife/girl friend's help, but give it a try. Go for some good quality sk in products and use every day including those with sunscreen worked right into the lotion. It is good nourishment for you and will make you look younger

OUT OF CURIOUSITY, Do Mexican Americans, pay State taxes ?

UMC is not part of the U of A, nor is it state-owned. Separate entities completely. UMC is a private, non-profit business, therefore an FOI request doesn't apply. I will agree with everyone, the name change is confusing and doesn't seem necessary.

I am so glad you are willing to acknowledge that demand is everything. Now, if I could just get you to acknowledge that without money in the hands of the evaporating middleclass (e.g., teachers, police, firefighter, government workers in general) demand will not improve/return to pre-recession levels.

Somebody asked if it was OK to rape and pillage the countrysides, destroy their environment, destroy their water, mistreat their peasants and take their natural resources. Why shouldn't we simply let foreigners rape and pillage OUR countryside, destroy our water supply, and take our natural resources? Think about it. This is OUR choice and shouldn't be left to the Chinese and Canadians.

To show my disgust for political correctness I would have hung two more there. Maybe one of just the head and the body laying on the ground. That would really get their panties in a pinch.

Bend over I'll drive...

Cool! A John Bircher arrives. roflmao Get out the fluoride and check under that bed for the commie!!

Instead of trying to draw NEW boundaries, how about just deleting all existing and start all over again? No gerrymandering allowed to keep selected folks in power.

I'm surprised Coulter didn't use the "N" word. I don't see why any one would interview her, except Fox. Shes a real losser. Shes a real losser.

State Law prohibits the lack of documentation. Poor record keeping is a crime in itself. The chain of lost or poor records keeping legally belongs to the chain of City Management/Managers. Indictments should first be applied to those who cannot or will not produce the REQUIRED documents.

Here's a great article about your 1%

King-teapublican " Well, more "civility" I see. ....because of the arrogant, self centered, unorganized, mo rons ....You have thrown your Sort of disqualifies you from the "civility" police.

How? We suggest citizen's taking care of their own neighborhhoods, and you're against it. We're saying let's take responsibility for our community and reduce the need for Govt. I couldn't care less about how others caused the problem. I'm looking to fix it, through my own effort, and the effort of my neighbor's, if they care to join. What are you doing about it? Because it looks like you're just bitching instead of doing something about it.

In the past we demonized various groups for being the root cause of economic problems. Groups like Blacks, Jews, Papists (Catholics), Irish, Italians, etc. Now it's the richest 1%. Just when you think that hate and bigotry has been defeated it raises it's ugly head. The democrat party can't let hate and bigotry die...they are it's entire platform. Gender, race, and class warfare with a sprinkle of environmentalism...that's their recipe for a "progressive" america.

You are incorrect. Unemployment creates poverty and all of the social ills that go along with it.

Good golly gosh gracious me. Gabby Giffords was distraught...

If folks want immigration control of the kind that makes a difference, you'll have to put up with businesses closing, especially in this economy. Personally, I think it's a pity. Would rather have the restaurants and give the illegal employees some kind of work permit. Seems like we all lose on this one.

Development near a beautiful area, water use, and foreign company investing in Arizona....yet no comments from ADS readers (double standard?) Critics oppose town's move to OK development near Grand Canyon

I hope we never have to find out. But the Founding Fathers were essentially protesting "taxation without representation." What we have here in essence is "representation without taxation," and "no representation at all." Most Americans, in poll after poll, have indicated that they believe the rich should pay more in taxes. They believe in a progressive income tax. They also believe by a large majority that profitable corporations should pay taxes. And they believe that workers should have the right to organize. The Republicans have thwarted every one of these majority held beliefs. Many large and profitable corporations pay no taxes, yet through their lobbying efforts, they get congressmen who do their bidding re-elected. That's "representation without taxation." And that's also "no representation at all" for their constituents in their home districts. You can have plutocracy, or you can have democracy. But you cannot have both.

The Amber Alert was ceased early...that is a fact. WHY the Amber Alert was stopped early...that MIGHT come to light.

Not really. It doesn't cost much to break up an unruly mob violating the law with water cannon.

Cain is "twice as black as Obama?" Thanks for reminding us where Coulter stands.

This is heartbreaking.

This is not the first time that the U.S. has sent military advisers to Uganda to help capture Kony and the Lord's Resistance Army. Former Pres. Bush did the same thing in 2008, and it resulted in an attack on Kony's campt in the northern DR Congo on Dec. 14, 2008. The attack was a disaster since Kony had been tipped off and fled with his army just hours before. If this mission is to be successful, it needs to be done differently. For an authoritative look at Kony and the LRA, see the book, First Kill Your Family: Child Soldiers of Uganda and the Lord's Resistance Army.

GOP candidates should not ignore foreign policy Notice: along with GOP candidates ignoring foreign policy, their constituents are ignoring them.

Its time to throw out the federal voting rights act and concentrate on creating national unity as opposed racial/ethnic divisions.

Fred B/Frank/Fannie'n'Freddie: Thanks for the link. Ain't that a hoot, the biggest Fannie'n'Freddie co-conspirator on the planet now wants to scrap 'em. But beware the fine print, what he wants to do is REPLACE them with something more to his liking, and it's a safe bet what he likes won't be to our advantage. Any time Frank -- or Obama, or Pelosi, or Reid, or Dodd, or several others -- says anything, parse, parse, parse.

Dave Z ...and the $45,000/a plate Obama donor? Where do they fall into the equation?

Conservatives and Liberals/Progressives have a very fundamental philosophical difference. Conservatives believe that you, the individual, is the best steward of OUR MONEY. Liberals would rather trust bureaucrats and politicians in Washington, D.C. to collect and redistribute OUR MONEY. Let's look at how well the Liberals/Progressives are doing: Department of Education with an annual budget of over $63 Billion has led U.S. public education to a place where U.S. students now consistently rank below the top 10 among industrialized countries in spite of the highest per pupil spending in the world. Department of Energy, formed in 1977 with a goal of leading the U.S. to energy independence, now has an annual budget in excess of $60 Billion, including Recovery Act funding but today we're more dependent on foreign oil than ever. And in spite of spending $trillions on The War on Poverty/Great Society programs of the 1960's, the U.S. poverty rate is only marginally better than in 1960. Great return on investment, huh? It basically comes down to "do you trust your neighbor more than you trust your D.C. politician to do the right thing?" We've seen over and over how money corrupts politics so why do Liberals/Progressives insist on sending more money to Washington to be frittered away on programs that don't work? The people that pay the taxes are fed up and want to see some accountability and responsibility in how Washington uses OUR MONEY. So, I don't want even the Billionaires to be taxed any more unless Washington is going to cut wasteful spending and spend the money they do have wisely instead of using OUR MONEY to buy votes or earmarking BS projects for their districts. WE'VE HAD IT! GET IT?

'TO EASE THE BURDEN ON THE CLIENTS"??? They are getting free money. Where can I sign up? Fingers are ready and able.

Really, Frank? "The state is run by republicans" and Tucson is run by democrats...aannnnddd???? "This is not a diatribe against republicans"...now you've proven you're a liar. Why should anyone read further?

I completely agree that cell phones are a distraction while driving. They have become an annoyance in meetings, restaurants, theaters ect as well. However, the very officer that will pull you over is monitoring his computer, talking on the radio, using the cell phone, typing on the computer, watching the road, monitoring his computer and so on. The very people who are being asked to enforce a law are the very people who are the MOST distracted while driving!! I agree with the concept of the law but if an officer can't respond to a burglery then pulling over a cell phone user is ridiculous!

I never said a word about anything that would indicate my opinion on the subject. I was simply commenting on the previous poster's statement that "the only way a bank gets its money is if a person deposits it."

I love how the article tag-teamed these two very distinct and separate issues so no-one would notice what's going on with the water supply. Great-- Tucson water is recommending that it is better that all of us, at our own expense, should have to replace our taps, appliances, household plumbing, swamp cooler fittings, hot water heaters, and everything else that gets near water, about every five years, so they don't have to spend the money to get a decent water supply. Yeah-- great. Just imagine all your plants dying from all the salts, having to spend at least 10K every few years to keep your house working, and having to buy bottled water because you can't stand the stuff from the tap. It's not even just you-- it'll be your kids, pets, plants, anything alive, that won't do well with it. You won't even be able to wash your car without the paint wearing out;-) Water is artificially cheap in the desert and has been since 1930's water projects. But I'd much rather spend an extra 12 dollars a month on a basic need than pay 40 times that every few years, and be stuck in a totally salt laden, barren, and dry desert. Is this really a way for a municipal "service" to act? As for the "Occupy Tucson" issue, you already know, in your own mind, if they are actually right, or not, depending on your perspective. We all, hopefully, have a conscience to deal with;-) But don't let greed ruin any chance of a decent water supply here, or it won't even matter much longer, will it?

Does the STAR think this is newsworthy? Must be trying to fill up space. No one cares about her any longer....she is a "has been" who thought she was a big star, only to be shown she wasn't. Move on STAR....everyone else has. Do you have any idea of what news like this does for your readership or newspaper sales? Am sure your sales are not what they use to be. A lot of people can just go on the Internet and read the news, not spend the money to read garbage.

slandering all financial industry employees for the abuse of a few is as bigoted as being rascist or sexist. with the recent economic downturn there were more financial jobs lost than anyother. so they are disproprtionalty expeiencing lost homes jobs, and homelessness compared to most. - to think they dont care about these issues is ignorant of the facts. finding similarities between the owc and the homeless is also as ridiculous. one group is there by choice the other not. one group has been allowed to stay over normal hours the other not. one group had been allowed to bring tents ,computers. radios,. celphones. music. tv's, instruments etc the other not. one group is being served food by local groups and businesses - the other not. one group has had toilets and shower equipment moved in for them and also are allowed to usefaciilites at local businesses the other not. one group has a lot of police to protect them from major harm. the other not. I dont see at all how you can compare one groups plight in our society with the other. this again shows how biased this thinking is against all logic. This is a big difference between those that are so called progressive and those that are enlightened i guess. I would suggest you give the readership more credit than you do for being able to makeup their own opinions than list these lies.

If the actions on Wall Street were only unethical, complaining is all we could do. Much like if a city uses our taxes to build a hotel instead of fixing the roads. To me the legal arguement for the actions of Wall Street is this. If I write a bad check I can face criminal charges. If Wall Street sells a bundle of worthless mortages the CEO gets a bonus. History has shown that with every financial crisis the businesses that got caught were from evidence in their accounts that they were allowed to keep secret. Once Lehman Brothers was shown to be totally funded by bets on the price for the IOU's they were currently holding no other business would have anything to do with them. The board of directors and other agencies that were supposed keep each individual businesses from gambling every penny of a company's money as soon as they could is not working. Wall Street needs open and honest books, and boards of directors that are not just rubber stamps for the CEO. Every business would agree with that, as long as they did not have to show their books. That is just bad business. Not a targeting of the rich. The City of Tucson is a perfect example. Even audits can not make sense of how much the city owes for parking spaces it promised some developer. Don't worry about the debts they can't pay this year, they'll take care of them when the economy turns around. How in the world is it "OK" for a bank to say we don't know who holds the mortage on the house you financed from us? I couldn't get away with driving a car and if police pull me over and I answer I have no idea who owns it today. The first step should be for states and, for Arizona the counties, should step up and say they are the authority for land property ownership and refuse to acknowledge any change of ownership via trading of mortages unless proper registration with the county has been performed. No more speculating on who the owner is.

too radical was rejected. The ( no so ) independent chairman masqueraded to appear ... or what he said. Co ote)

privatizing profits and sticking it to taxpayers for clean up JUST LIKE grupo mexico did with asarco

That makes Arizona and New York City the only remaining jurisdictions that fingerprint The headline lies an the article provides proof...LOL

This ought to be fun

I'm with you there Carol S, My first thought was no wonder our nation is going to hell in a hand basket. I am conservative and believe in my marriage vows for 27 yrs now. If someone wants more than one don't get married, they stain and belittle the sacredness of marriage. I don't judge others but I see the reason for our crappy state of affairs here.

And buying foreign-made products manufactured from foreign raw materials lowers our nation's trade deficits? Just because some of the copper concentrates produced from American mines have to be smelted overseas due the lack of capacity here, does not necessarily imply that the refined unmanufactured copper product will remain there. Could it not be returned to the U.S. and used by American manufacturers to produce a finished consumer product.

What needs to be repealed is the elimination of DADT. The DOMA should be recognized by EVERY STATE in nation.

Nearly $40 million has been spent on the project, which is expected to cost $196.5 I guess nobody told the RTA about the project's cost increases (thus far). They're still listing the budget at $162.7 million on their website. Then again, what's $34 million between friends. Just put it on the tab, right fellas?

I support this law. You need to be 100% focused on driving and not doing something else. Gary H: True, but I was stopped by DPS for a burnt out headlight. Looks like they have a flame under them to 'start writing' and this was in a known enforcement zone by a sergeant. I just hope that TPD gets with the program and joins them.

Randy, they don't have the Senate votes yet and they're trying to twist a couple of arms. Once they line up those votes, the special session will be on.

I am really getting tired of obama blaming everyone else for his failures.

"P ce i a ga he ea E ic Cafe a N h F h A e e a d Ea U i e i B e a d" E ic Cafe? Ca a a b a ce. A c ha a be e a he e (a d f d).

Why is the USA allowing any foreign company to own our mines? Foreigners own all of the mining in Wyoming now. Once again Republicans talking out of both sides of their mouths! How is that reducing USA's dependence on any foreign goods when foreigners are allowed to purchase our lands and highways? How very sad that they are so short-sighted......again. Protest Resolution Copper

No doubt Media Research Center is compiling a Special Report about liberal news media attacks on Cain as the did about support for Obama in the primar . It sure is interesting to compare toda 's coverage against the coverup this newspaper did for President Clinton. When faced with the Juanita Broaddrick scandal, the wrote an editorial called "Scandal Wear " lamenting that there were so man scandals; was it reall necessar to report them all? So the gave that one a pass. The Red S ar in action. As I showed in m first comment, the manipulation of liberals and gullible middle of the roaders b liberal news media is real and a terrible problem for America. Wh do the do it? Do the hate this countr so much the wa it is? Or are the just as much victims of manipulation?

Does equity ever factor into the fairness equation?

$arah's pregnant AGAIN?

And he still hasn't figured out that being a Liberal is wrong. Some people never learn.

This is a re-rwrite of an article yesterday that had the complete data on deportations and the reason for them. 72% of all deportations were Mexican Nationals and the highest reason for criminal deportation was drug sell or smuggling. This article tries to show that the U.S. is deporting people for "minor" traffic offenses. In actuality the illegal was caught and found to have traffic citations open. They were deported for being in the country illegally, normally without paying their traffic tickets.

He's getting crazy sex from Carmen.

The freeloaders always draw a crowd.

Watched the morning coverage on TV of this earth shattering event. One guy might have had a worthwhile message, but really hard to tell, since his sign was upside down.

the accusations or to Politico's careful, responsible reporting on them. Oh come now Ruth-- CAREFUL RESPONSIBLE REPORTING ===no names, no documents---no speific quotes. And no denials, either, as to the fact that allegations were made and settlement was reached.

For all of you that gobble up the end times prophecy (see Calif Christians predict end of world thread): Have you noticed that 9-9-9 turned upside down is 6-6-6???? Surely a sign that Cain is the Anti-Christ I suppose.

What percentage of their business is with government?

Obummer is going to restore confidence in the economy? You're kidding, right? By the way, most of the comments in this thread have nothing to do with this story, since they date back to Feb 2, 2010. Can't the ADS get anything right?

Robert says Watch what news? That doesn't give evidence to support your claim that the Senate has been controlled by the Democrats the last 3 years.

My wife and I tried it a few times. We both thought it was overpriced and the food mediocre. We went because it was close to where we lived. However, the service was always very friendly and it is where I was introduced to sopapillas and honey. They brought us a free order after we had finished dinner one night. I don't think a person can forget their 1st experience with that particular treat.

Well said and completely on target. Baker may be a loon but Romero is waist deep in the big muddy of Rio Nuevo - something the endorsement folks at the ADS gloss over except to note her involvement in the Gadsden scheme to "reroute" even more tax dollars to undeserving developers. I'll take the loon over the Rio Nuevista anyday - time to clean house.

HooRah!

And it's a really good thing we have people in this world like both of them!

I agree, if the court actually follow through and fine these people. Talk on local radio this morning is the fear that when these court hearings actually happen, the court will dismiss the charges. I want the court to fine them to the full extent of the law and not back down. The police didnt do their job for nothing.

Historically the powers that be (Republicans/Democrats) have attempted to paint assorted issues in various shades for the purpose of pushing their agenda. Both parties share a symbiotic relationship in which they have each other to scapegoat when their asinine policies fail. In reality, most issues in life are black and white. Either you take responsibility for your life and the choices that you have made or you don't. The moment you don't is the moment that an undue stress is put on society. This point can be argued till exhaustion, or conversely the masses can take responsibility for themselves and stop depending on other parties for their well being. Lastly, life is not fair and nobody owns you anything. Get over it!

Here's a thought. Feel that strongly about it. Show the courage of your convictions. Feel free to write a check and mail it off. Just don't use MY money to send out of this country to a bunch of savages that hate us anyway! Spend your money as you will. Leave MINE alone!

The BB records belong to the National Archives under the "Presidential Papers Act" As such they cannot be released, without the President's permission, until 17 years after the President leaves office. That is why we still don't know who was on the members of Dick Cheney's Energy Policy Committee. Passed in 1974 to keep Tricky Dick's records from being destroyed following Watergate.

OWS movement is MORE popular than any of the republican presidential wanna be's. and much more popular than that other movement, T something. it's just possible we are witnessing the birth of that Third party ...... if not then we should ask ourselves, of the two dominating political party's, which one aligns closest with the OWS movement ..... any guess's.?

glad it happened. I was ready to bail in January and was in the process of setting up my bill pay with my credit union.

What moment? While these yahoos are out sleeping in the parks and having a "moment". The corporation are people bunch are out buying up(with billions) politicians and putting forth candidates, patriotically approved, that are well on their way to gutting the country.

Ken B; Here is a sample, but I know you will discredit them..sigh.. as usual,if it does not fit what you believe but you asked for examples. http://moonbattery.com/?p=3299 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2011/10/17/anti-semitism-on-casual-display-at- occupy-la-ows/ ""In Los Angeles, protester Patricia McAllister, who identified herself as an employee of the Los Angeles Unified School District (we can only hope she is not an educator), had this to say: "I think that the Zionist Jews, who are running these big banks and our Federal Reserve, which is not run by the federal government . . . they need to be run out of this country. http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/wall-street-protests- antisemitism/2011/10/18/id/414817 "On the American Nazi Party website, leader Rocky Suhayda voiced support for 'Occupy Wall St.' and asked, “Who hold the wealth and power in this country? The Judeo- Capitalists. Who is therefore the #1 enemy who makes this filth happen? The Judeo- Capitalists. "One of [the] people reportedly responsible for organizing the 'Occupy Wall St.' protests, Adbusters editor Kalle Lasn, has a history of perpetuating conspiracy theories that say the Jews control America’s foreign policies." Frankly I would dread having support from the Nazi party.

this group knew before the act, we're going against the law, the rules state.. etc. the elected to follow that path. Freedom is 'not free' they exercised their rights, we're exercising ours as taxpayers expecting the laws that were agreed to prior are utilized. Why didn't they find a way to get a permit? Oh we don't need no stinking system? Sorry, wrong answer.

LOL it was fun to watch him squirm. LOL All that plastic surgery gone to waste. LOL

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Ohhhh..Sharp!

Irwin says Actually, I think you've quite accurately described Rush.

Obama, looking to write his own history, warned fellow Democrats that "we have to acknowledge that change can't come quickly enough." Hmmm...maybe if he had done a better job with the $787 Billion, change could have come more quickly... but no, far better to try and time it to work with the elections... we're almost a year into the "Stimulus" and according to recovery.gov they've still only spent 34% of the money. So much for "quick" "stimulative" "shovel ready"

It makes ou wonder how man of the whiners are posting from a tent in Armor park. LOL