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One of the Undeniable Truths of Life is: Poor people are poor because they do the things which poor people do. Rich people are rich because they do the things which poor people do.

Obama doesn't need a smoke screen to get reelected. He will win because there is no one to run against him at this time. The far Right doesn't like Romney, the moderates and independents don't like Perry or Cain. The Dems won't vote for any of these guys. To beat Obama you need a solid candidate that all R's and I's will vote for, and it isn't happening.

Leslie, what is really dosturbing is the amount of illegal aliens from the mideast that slip into this nation from Mexico. There are a few hundred that are in the Federal Detention Center in Phoenix, and there are those that keep their head in the sand. Deport all illegal aliens.

viewed a lot of Occupy event video's over the weekend, this is probably one of the better ones if not the best, OccupyOrlando.. NOT one spoken word in this video, NOT any clowns dressed as some sort of caricature from the past, these are everyday people. take a look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SNONQWtQyw

Just more of the liberal media. Vote out hope and change in November 2012.

so just because a family recieves food stamps they are "People" and not just people? I'm not quite sure what you imply by that, but i assure you that not all families on government assistance are free loading drug addicted criminals.

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The only rights we have are those that were "given to us" by the Constitution. Otherwise, everything else is on a "wish list". Universal health care paid for by THOSE who pay taxes - for THOSE who do not ; is NOT one of those RIGHTS. I certainly agree it is a "nice thought" that we are all "covered" but, the simple truth is IF you are here and alive, then YOU are responsible for what you have and DO NOT have, not the government; Not the people who work/have jobs/made good, whatever you call it. YOU.

Inequality - You want to complain about the poverty rate? Ok, when LBJ started the War on Poverty, it was just over 14%. Trillions of dollars of federal spending over nearly 50 years, and the poverty rate has ticked up. Perhaps the Government IS THE PROBLEM. THEY give HAND OUTS, not HANDS UP.

Interesting this opinion piece is being labeled as a factual news article. I certainly do not have enough information to decide that a mine is always a bad thing. I think that if the choice was a mine or ano he Del Webb disposable housing development that will self destruct in 12 years, go for the mine. Take a drive north on Oracle road, does Oro Valley look much different then if they had just dug a mine there? I would rather see a mine pit then the abandoned houses and shopping centers that area will look like in 10 years. More people does NOT improve Arizona.

There is no doubt that that mines such as Rosemont cause public health illness, work injuries/deaths, priceless ecologic destruction, and local business/land depreciation. They have unreimbursed direct and indirect costs for taxpayers.

My Mom used to call writers like this one a "busybody"

Sorry, but you are misunderstanding. I am taking it from their fact sheet I had posted IMMEDIATELY prior to the post you are quoting. Just to help you understand my post, here is the part I was refering too.

I'm so tired of people playing the race card!! People always pull that when they don't get their way! I pray that they find the child.

Could it possibly be that the Red Star does NOT want this mine? How silly of me to ask.

A pity. If they close for good, hope they can rescue the bull.

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Las Vegas....Hussein is in Vegas? remeber his declaration of marxism...."we can no longer go to Las Vegas & spend like we once did"? The Las Vegas mayor is not attending his coronation today. The mayor blames one of Vegas' biggest slumps on Husseins dissing Vegas. One by one people are standing up to Saul Alinsky II.

Just the truth.

Didn't I read that on an OWS poster?

It was my experience in Paris David, that yes the Parisians are the rudest in Europe, especially to Americans, however those in the rural areas were very friendly, and accomodating.

(HannibalDeLaCruz) I say "No New Taxes" until they can prove they are spending our tax dollars well. Obviously, they are not.

There's been more anti-semitism at these protests in a few weeks than there has been any sign of any form of racism at the tea parties in a few years.

More like... "Legislators Seek to Undermine Democracy.". The voters chose this commission to do this redistricting work....End off story! But out legislature!!

Real sorry to hear about this.

Perfect example for benjamin.

The problem is that the U.S. system is not pure capitalism. It it was, we wouldn't be having the problems we are having. Under true capitalism there would be no bank bailouts, no auto bailouts, no TARP, no stimuli. Instead, our elected Federal officials have hi-jacked the U.S. economy through legislation, regulation, Corporate welfare and taxation in the name of capitalism to ensure their re-election campaigns, reward their friends and punish their enemies. Please quit calling what we have in American today Capitalism. Our current economic system could not be any farther from a capitalist system than it is now.

mnjpenny p. (mnjpenny) 1 hour, 39 minutes ago All the Righties around here ought to consider the hard thruths: Countries that have better economies than the United States, who have more upward mobility (the dream is alive and working), more security and less debt, also have: * direct proportionate representation democracies that are much more difficult for corporations to gain control of by financing campaigns. * They have more restrictions on lobbying. * They also have more regulation of corporate & banking activities. * Labor is protected and celebrated, not attacked. NAME FIVE COUNTRIES WHERE YOUR EUTOPIA EXISTS

Stop believing that anti gov baloney, Regulations and taxes did not close them down, their greed and taking out huge loans to pay for their lifestyles did. The restaurant was paid for cash decades ago. The kids of the original owners used the restaurant as a cash cow. Too bad 20 years ago it was great. No pride in what their parents and grandparents built up.

Are you trying to discuss the topic or just be extremely crude?

She will soon be starring the the sequel to her Razzie winning move "I know who killed me", to be titled "'Twas me who killed me"

Americans. Take back your country. Arizonans take back your state. Arizonans this is the last pristine part of Arizona. Rosemont et al is the epitome of what is wrong with industrial/political exploitation of this country. Just say no.

I'm waiting for all the homeless in Santa Rita Park to storm the next city council meeting and tell them they are protesting and should be allowed to remain there. If you waive the rules for one, you must waive them for all.

President Barack Obama says national defense isn't the sole responsibility of the U.S. military and that it's time for the rest of the country to pitch in Why didnt he just "assign" Felipe Calderon to degrade the military.? Hussein addressing West Point is no better than Calderon getting a standing O for dissing America. This marxist (Hussein) makes me what to puke

KOLD reports that Save The Scenic Santa Ritas is asking the US Forest Service to end public comments on the DEIS because of Augusta Rosemont's ham-handed attempts to subvert the process as it has been caught doing in the past. Maybe the ADS will catch up with that story before the weekend so we will be allowed to comment directly. The Rosemont cabal a deux is again overwhelmed by opponents of the mine, one obviously realizing his deluge of cut and paste "best of Horquilla" reruns generate more antipathy than support. And linking Elias' opposition to the mine because it "won't hire illegals" represents a new low even for both mine supporters. Getting desperate?

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Most likely. However, the Republicans WILL retake the Senate next year and the bill will be approved.

Despite the constant feed of disonformation, Did you know that the starting salary for basic jobs at such mines, under 20/hr, is below a living wage for a family of four? Resolution and Rosont promise generations of economic strife for Arizona.

YES WE DO, it is anyone associated with the current City Council and managers office. We have no idea what backdoor deals have been made with him or his firm. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t he one of those greedy rich people, he has made over $3.2 MILLION DOLLARS off the backs of hard working folks in Tucson? That’s right, I forgot only Republicans are rich and greedy. There is over $100 million in wasted spending, illegal spending and just flat out 'no idea where the money went', spending. Why would you want anyone associated with that in office?

For all its flaws, the 999 plan wouldn't allow hidden tax increases like this. I consider 999 to be a starting point; it's impossible to trim around the edges of the current 70,000 page tax law. No campaign plan survives first contact with the enemy. Field Marshall Helmuth Graf von Moltke

Has anyone suggested that she go to the Salvation Army drug/alcohol programs for women? Or to the Teen Challenge programs? Those are both tough programs, hopefully would straighten her out and perhaps help her with other problems as well.

There are already education campaigns and news stories which discuss the dangers of texting, talking on cellphones, or both while driving, but there are still people who continue to text or talk on their cellphone believing an accident will not happen to them. The same as when there are messages right before the previews at movies which are to EDUCATE people not to text, talk on their cellphone, or talk with others during movies, yet you still the majority of the time when someone believes the rules don't apply to them.

Curfew is there for ALL citizens and for a reason. Abide by the laws the people have set or become a criminal.

best of luck. what a fantastic idea. and it will have less drunk/bu ed drivers on the road for a muchie run

if I get a ticket and I ask the judge to raise the speed limit so I don't have to pay... silly huh. Freedom is 'not free' they make the camp they lay in, may they pay the fee of the cost of such demonstration which violated 'civil law' or is being 'civil' now for someone else, not them? cus their 'special' - NYET - "Pay up" protest hero's.

Speaking of distracting, what does that have to do with the Iraq war?

So, it seems it was passed by a vote of the citizens of the city of Tucson...Therefore...build it. That's what they voted for.

tax code simplified because it is their $1 billion annual pay check. rich. 1 Billion? Try $265 billion. That's the cost of compliance.

Gosh, I hope Josh's head doesn't explode from trying to figure out Rio Nuevo. Paul A. (Evel K) nailed it four posts in.

Everybody involved should be investigated by the attorney general for corruption, I am sure many public officials took kickbacks including Mayor Walkup and Mr. Rothschild. They need to bring in audit firm that is very remote, from the Rio Nuevo Project like the George Marshall Institute.

With all the unemployed out there and he "just walks off the job" in the middle of the show. How many of you could do that and just "come right back"?? Seems to me that was inconsiderate no matter why he did it.I don't care enough about the guy to even wonder why... Hire someone that wants and needs a job..

I'd say you beat the odds considerably, if you worked for one corporation for 20 years and received pay raises throughout that time. My experience has been anything but that. And I've got an engineering degree and an MBA. I might also add that my experience mirrors that of many, if not most, of my colleagues. Laid off four times, none for probable cause. Making one- third less than I made five years ago. Probably looking at working as a greeter at Wal-Mart in another ten years. Obviously, you've never talked to anyone who ever worked for Enron. And while I never worked for them, I know a couple who had. Thought it was the greatest company ever, until they lost everything. Yet the CEO and the executive staff (vice presidents, general managers, etc.) walked away with millions. Most got away with it. So pat yourself on your smug little back, and think that God has blessed you greatly because you deserved it, and all the rest of us just made "poor choices."

They are "wards of the state" because of the mines. They provide low paying dead end jobs. We need jobs that improve our State's economy.

Thank you Karole S. for your thoughtful posts. There does come a time when we reach the tipping point and no longer stand on the sidelines as our nation goes down the road of destruction and bigotry.

"In Texas, we made the decision that it was in our best interests as a state, economically and otherwise, to have those young people in our institutions of higher learning and becoming educated as part of our skilled workforce," Perry said. Funny there's no mention that illegal aliens can't legally become a member of our workforce whether skilled or unskilled. A discussion about a proposed bill earlier this year made it clear that a great many Texans seem to feel they have the right to have illegal domestic help. I once thought it might be a good place to live but since Texans apparently like to overlook lawlessness I won't even consider visiting.

that they are. Problem with that is they don't believe in science. The earth is flat crowd.

Looking at his menu, I wonder how man of those things are labeled "not for individual sale". Probabl quite a few. Do ou know wh items sa "not for individual sale"? Probabl not, so let me enlighten ou. The "not for individual sale" is written there because of nutrition labeling. For instance, Coke might write this on a can because all the ingredients are not listed on the can itself but rather on the packaging. But thanks for our concern! I am reall enjo ing the feedback people, thank ou so much! That's onl partiall true. You're gonna wanna do some more research about all of the products ou sell.

A package in the range that the President-Elect has discussed is expected to create between three and four million jobs by the end of 2010

ever thing of theirs. Just about what one would expect from a OWS supporter.

Greg M., NASA also did another Saturn V the same way as in Huston, but at Cape Canaveral at the Space Center. I saw it a few years ago. Robert/Joel My mother's home town has a historic lighthouse in it and the people there fought tooth and nail to keep it standing. It's one of the earliest ones in the USA, and it is known at the Concord Point in Harver de Grace, MD. Like some she did not understand why they wanted to keep it standing. Some folks in town didn't care about it and yet others did. Joel put it best "To each his own".

I don't support Ayn Rand Objectivism because the philosophy supports the rights of businesses to hire crimmigrants without punishment. "Objectivism upholds "open immigration" or "free immigration," that is, totally free movement of goods, money, people, etc. within the sphere of individual rights. Perhaps the term "open borders" could be rejected as a neocon smear term or anti-concept, as private property would be protected from trespassers obviously, and people would have to enter official ports of entry rather than the conjured image of people waltzing across the border wherever they please that the term implies. But there would not be any tariffs, exchange controls, or barriers to free trade or migration of any type." The President of the Ayn Rand Inst debating in favor of open borders. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib3nVuw2RQU

I'm pretty sure you've just described every company that employs more than 500 people. I know you've described at least half of the companies I've worked for and I wouldn't say any of them were terrible jobs.

It's no race issue: Cain should ans er harassment claims Nothing screams “racism” more than preceding the entire article by the denial that the smear is against some “who ain t actin like he sposed to”. No, Herman Cain isn t being a good DemocRat. Ruth M s political hit piece also reinforces the repetition of baseless allegations by backing them up with solid, empty questions. Well, what did the women allege? Did Cain dispute their accounts entirely, as Thomas did with Hill? Or did Cain argue that his actions or words had been misconstrued? She failed to watch, last night, as Fox News questioned Cain and got all of the answers to her questions and why the memory of what happened during a baseless allegation was vague .

I LOVE Crock Pots. They are great to put together something in the morning, come home and dinner is done. Whatever you want, chicken, beef, soups, stew, pot roast.... Buy a roast throw in some red chile sauce or salsa verde let it slow cook all day and you have a big pot of red or green chili. A stack of tortillas, condiments of choice and a couple beers.. Oh yeah. We do that with a pork tenderloin. This weekend we made enchiladas out of the "pork verde".

Americans have flatly rejected the re-teapublican agenda of putting Tax breaks for the wealthiest over CREATING JOBS... (check polls) Americans want Progress and the re-teapublicans are NOT offering it, regression does not move us forward.... that mr. righty is why you are at 9% approval............

Positives far outweigh questionable negatives on Rosemont Mine.

It's a shame these people who are too lazy to work want another handout from those who do. Most of these protesters couldn't tell you what they are protesting. I heard one ignorant teen on the news yesterday she was protesting for a redistribution of wealth. Really? Another person looking for a handout from those who have earned it. If you are not pulling down a good living in this country it is your own fault. Time to stop blaming those who are successful for your misery. 1) Allot of OWS protesters are ignorant. I have heard an earful and it wasn't pretty. Those who are thus are nothing but a black eye to progressives everywhere. 2) Have you never heard of taking advantage of someone? The financial industry, major corporations, and politicians have been doing this with the American worker for a while. Let me give you an example: I am an engineer. My research group posted a net income for our company of 5 million dollars. Our support during this time was 300k, including all pay and facilities. All research was directed by yours truly and two other doctorates, with no input from above. We were informed that we would not get a raise this year because there were no available funds, after our upper level managers got a 5000 dollar bonus and some stock options. So, I worked hard. I worked long. I have excellent reviews. I generate income and productivity. I get no raise. My managers, some of which I was hired on with, have done nothing except fire those who could not keep up. They have not in any way upped productivity or generated income, at least in ways separated from "right sizing" or demanding more work for the same pay. They sit in their offices bragging about the overtime they are forcing while I and the rest of the graduate bunch make sure the company is selling things at a profit. I worked hard, and I am getting the shaft. How is that for your "American Dream"? Don't talk to me of personal responsibility, talk to me of personal respectability and why our elite class has NONE!

I drove up to San Manuel and watched the demolition of those 2 stacks, and it was awesome!

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It's quite simple if people were educated on history, America, and the Constitution, we would clearly understand the importance of "who we pick" for president. All it takes is some personal effort to understand the people running. Rather than educating ourselves, we listen to the media, the opinions of the paper, and the gibberish from so called "ingelligent academia". Do you think the hard working Americans who produce things, have businesses, hire people, takes their families to Sunday church, and saves for their kid's future and their own, would have voted for someone that: Has ties to terrorists groups Spent 20 years in a racist church damning America Spent a life time studying and speaking of Top down, buttom up, and inside out ideology Spent a life time studying marxist and socialist authors, speakers, and educators Had parents who spent a life time demonizing America and studying marxist mentors and educators Surrounded himself with people like Van Jones, Cass Sunstein, and their followers. Has anyone every really studies these people's backgrounds? Has anyone really identified what these people really stand for? Good hard working patriotic folks never would have voted for such nonesense, but they are in our Whitehouse!! What I'm saying is, if you or I really knew, and I did, what Obama and company really believes how a country or a world should operate, never in your life would you have voted for such an anti-American and anti-Constitution as the current President. We have one year to educate ourselves, DO NOT make the same mistake twice. Clearly look at the current Country's state of health and don't think for once that all of what is happening has nothing to do with Obama and his followers. Do not be a fool again.

The reason the poor in this country have so much is because the gov't never stops counting them. If some family meets the gov't criteria for poverty they begin to get various federal aid programs. Food stamps, rent subsidies, heating subsidy, Medicaid and an earned income tax credit. All these programs raise them up to a decidedly middle class standard, but the gov't continues to count them as being in poverty, making the problem seem worse than it is. This allows the politicians to continue to ask for more poverty spending which buys them more votes.

That is not what I said and you know it.

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Ultimately it's PEOPLE who need copper not companies. Companies who manufacture cars & trucks, smartphones, iPads, refrigerators, microwaves, medical & farming equipment, TVs etc. are supplying an existing NEED. They don't just mine for the heck of it. The U.S. population uses about 5 pounds copper per person per year! China and India have larger populations but use FAR less copper per capita (<2 lbs/person per year). China, India and others will catch up with our consumption usage soon...and why shouldn't they have the right to do so? We just hit 7 billion people on the planet...most of whom would give a lot to enjoy the standard of living we have in the U.S. We'll be up to 9 billion in 2050. The biggest impact on the planet is the number of people. Population drives everything...need for mineral resources, food, water as well as air and water pollution. EVERY mine currently in existence will need to be replaced 2-3x over in the next few dacades to supply the copper, lead, zinc, iron, cobalt, tin, potash, silica, manganese, clay, aggregate, and rare earths etc. needed by these 7 to 9 billion people.

Board member Paton said he sees no retraction in his future. "The taxpayers of this state have invested money into this and they expect us to stand up for them and I'm not going to let anybody silence me," he said. Good for him. Stick to your guns and keep defending the interests of the taxpayers. Don't be intimidated by these scam artists or by the City of Tucson.

From the article this is the 7th staff member to plead guilty to knowingly hiring illegal aliens. Keep going after the employers and giving them jail time!

Wonder if they turned up a blue dress, or a cigar if the libs would leave Herman alone then.

Get back on your meds William.

You and me both.

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re-evaluate your situation. It's called personal responsiblity. Me? Single, no home, no credits or itemized deductions except for a few hundred dollars for student loan interest. I pay BIG taxes for my "bracket". If they "broaden the base" I'm very likely to pay much less. And yet, I think it's a bad idea. Imagine that. You're missing a few points. 1) "Everyone should pay taxes" - Most everyone does. Ask the Cons for a list of all the taxes people pay. The current topic is "Federal Income taxes". Stay on the subject. 2) "If you decided to get married and have a family knowing you are unable to support them" - Not unable. We're talking about middle class Tucson families, making $35k - $50k. Maybe they can support them now, but will be less able if the proposed "FAIR/FLAT" tax is enacted. Is that really "fair"? 3) "Also, if you don't like the wage that you are earning" - I think most are trying to do the right thing about it. They bust butt, work above and beyond the job description and make themselves valuable to the company. But all that isn't getting them raises. Look at the stats for wage growth among the middle class. They can't ALL be lazy, can they?

The reserve statement is based on moving mineral resources classified as "Measured and Indicated" into a catergory known as "Proven and Probable" mineral reserves. Proven and Probable are what can be economically extracted/processed over the estimated life-of-mine. Based on what they have drilled out no , they have a "20-year mine life". Twenty years is always the starting point on the Arizona porphyry copper deposits. They don't come in tiny 5- year sizes..they're all fairly large. For historical perspective, ASARCO Mission mine started 50 years ago in 1961 with a "20- year mine life". Fifty years later in 2011, they still have a "20-year mine life". Seventy years of production and counting. Why? The geologists drilled more mineralized material and the engineers and metallurgists figured out how to extract and process it economically - thereby translating mineralized material into mineral reserves and extending the mine life.

We don't have the water to support all these mines.

Why do cockroaches always crawl out of the wood work after you turn out the lights?

They might have closed in the Foothills Mall in August but they didn't open in Oro Valley until a week or so ago, and that is a "soft" opening to get the kinks out. I hope they do well in this location, the food is great! Foothills Mall Mexican restaurant moves to Oro Valley -

Can't blame him for being infatuated with her. She is beautiful inside and out. BUT, he needs to be locked up before he takes it any further.

What wages and benefits did they pay these workers? How does that compare to what other non-union contractors pay their workers? Union contractors would obviously pay their workers more, but then again, union contractors would never knowingly recruit "illegals". Rick D. If you have ever paid a wadge in AZ you know that the workers industrial commision Does an audit of the books 3 time a year. They look at payroll to accounts receivable to be in the 40% range. They look at the escrow accounts for labor burdern are being funded. The bonding companies do audits also as well as the banks. If a sub gets behind on its payment to the supplier, They send in their accountants and slap a lein on the property/job. AS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THE GOVERNMENT GETS ITS PART OF THE REVENUE THE INSURANCE GETS THEIRS AS WELL AS EVERYONE ELSE. Unions do solicit and hire illegals on Union funded projects they hire non-union labor. It is allways nice to build in profits into your job. If you price a market with union labor and perform it with non-union. It atuomatically has a huge profit built in on paper before it even starts. It is the classic assesed value over real market value. It has been done for the last 4 decades and the bust of the 20's. look at savings and loan ( Regan) Internet boom (Clinton) The energy and telecom ( Clinton & Bush) or Enron, world com, etc etc. Insurance company values ( Bush & Obama) and all of these is the fault of congress where most of the problem lies

I still don't understand why "national" attention is being asked for so strongly by this grandmother. I just can't see how having the Denver police for example looking for this child would make any sense. Sounds like there is some family information that the family is not sharing.

This has become a nation where the MINORITY RULES and NOT the majority. It is time to never ask or require a persons race in ANY MANNER. It is things like this that make me ashamed to admit that I am an American or should I say For the most part, competitiveness takes a back seat Ariz. English-Welsh-German-White-American. Best governments in the world. NOT EVEN CLOSE!

companies to use Canadian materials to manufacture goods for sale to other countries... American oil companies are producing oil from oil sands in Alberta and shipping to to ehe US at a rate of 2 million barrels per day for use by the American consumer.

It's no surprise the ADS published this article. That is just what they would want you to think. Hogwash! Maybe they should take another look at the money filtering into the Dems campaign. I guess, were suppose think the Dems are all broke, and looking they are looking after us po folks. ADS still makes a good fish wrapper!

Interesting...not one comment about what that nut job ,racist, Ann Coulter said. Not one. "our blacks" indeed. !!!

Dumbest idea ever. Another bonfire for taxpayer money.

Libya will end up as a islamic state that hates America and Europe. We will have to reap the failure of the Obama administrations policy of appeasment to the islamic radicals! I am only glad that the U.S doesn't get oil from libya. I feel sorry for Europe that they will also have to live with the mistakes that will lead to another islamic state.

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Funny how the article went right from protesting to water. The city council took no action. Every thing is normal here.

But I want that poor lady's son to be able to come back to Tucson and find a great job with Rosemont Mine. (TV commercial propaganda from Rosemont) He can't find sustainable work here destroying the environment and polluting the ground water if they don't get to take all of their corporate profits back to Canada after raping our desert. It's just like a Gem and Mineral show every 7 days, except we don't get to keep our pristine environment in the Santa Rita Mountains afterward. I am so depressed over this I just want to drink arsenic laden groundwater.

I think I'd better leave again before I scream, "aaaaack!"

Nor was that my point. I was pointing out the potential falsehood of the statement that growing pecans does not pollute.